In this episode, Jasmine Dulay and Lordella Ella discuss the issue of discrimination in the model industry with journalist, model, and activist Shivani Persad. Shivani made a name for herself by modelling for companies like Nordstrom, Target and Laura Mercier, and has had her opinion articles featured in the New York Times, Cosmopolitan, and Teen Vogue. She was a member of the Model Alliance Leadership Council, and recently spoke at Columbia Law School. We also dive into her experiences as a woman of colour in the industry.