After the recording with our guests, TingTing and KaKa stayed online to reflect on our learnings.  This clip is after our recording with the guests. Topics include: self-worth, acceptance and happiness. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

As life become busier and busier with the start of the new year, TingTing and KaKa began to question: Does work-life balance actually exist? How to effectively prevent burnout?Do we have to work 24/7 , 996 (9am to 9pm, 6 days per week) to be successful? To answer these questions, we bravely invited 2 friends from our professional world to explore this topic. === Introducing our guest === Alanna La Cioppa Alanna and Tingting clicked through laughters and being almost "absurdly" happy in the office. Alanna is a lawyer, yoga teacher and currently work in change management. Her stories about life, death and purpose brought her a unique understanding on the topic of work life balance.  Follow Alanna on Instagram @alignedbyalanna or her website www.alignedbyalanna.com Kiet Truong Kiet is KaKa’s colleague and friend. As a senior manager from one of the big four consultancy and a father of 2 young children, he seems to have a secret recipe to balance everything and remain calm. ===Join Us=== We would like to invite you to join the growth journey with a lot of fun, laughter, and deep conversations. If you would like to be our next guest or share your stories, visit tingtingandkakas.com! ===This Season of TingTing and KaKa’s == While we adjust to a new norm of working under an unprecedented COVID lockdown, KaKa quitted her job and reconnected with her purpose after a 2-month career break while Tingting just began hers. This season we answer the question “What is work?” through brutally honest and fun conversations with our friends, colleagues and loved ones. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

As Tingting embarks on her creator journey full-time and Kaka strives to grow her side jewelry business, we became curious about: How do business owners/entrepreneurs work? What are the challenges? Is there really more money and freedom when you "work for yourself"? And what is better -- working for others or working for yourself? To answer these questions, we invited 2 friends who are business owners. === Introducing our guest === Issa He Issa is a return guest from Season 1 Episode 3 and she was KaKa's teacher in interpretation. She started her language service business 7 years ago, specializing in legal, commercial, and art translation. And she is also the host of the Silent Reading Club which is a great community for all book lovers! Sarah Cong Sarah is a born entrepreneur and the founder of Cottonly -- luxury pure cotton wipes that cares for your skin. She had previously worked at the world's top luxury corporation, took on multiple ventures in her early 20s, and danced K-Pop with Tingting.  ===Join Us=== We would like to invite you to join the growth journey with a lot of fun, laughter, and deep conversations. If you would like to be our next guest or share your stories, visit tingtingandkakas.com! ===This Season of TingTing and KaKa’s == While we adjust to a new norm of working under an unprecedented COVID lockdown, KaKa quitted her job and reconnected with her purpose after a 2-month career break while Tingting just began hers. This season we answer the question “What is work?” through brutally honest and fun conversations with our friends, colleagues and loved ones. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

Despite living miles away from our birth country -- China, we are curious about: What is the biggest difference between working in China and working in other countries( Australia, USA and Canada etc)?What do we need to know about the people and work culture if we want to work in China?How about the salary difference and lifestyle changes? To answer these questions, we invited 2 friends who've experienced both sides but made different choices. === Introducing our guest === Ge Qu Having lived in China, the USA and Canada, Ge (pronounced as gəː) is a deep thinker and explorer. On the first day of secondary school in China, Tingting sneakily stood next to Ge as she ranked number 1 in the entrance exam. Luckily the friendship matured beyond grade and status in the next 10 years, during which Tingting moved to Australia and Ge completed university in China then pursued further study at the University of Pennsylvania.  Ge is now working in China and faces the unique challenge of a 'haigui' or 海龟 (sea turtle) meaning “return from abroad.” Wendy Bai Wendy Bai is a good friend and trusty advisor of KaKa. They get to know each other through work and then the friendship grew rapidly from all the common value and interests.  Wendy has a very impressive resume in both China and Australia.  She graduated from one of the elite universities in China.  Subsequently, she went to work for some of the most iconic global companies. In early 2010, she left her comfort zone and built her own tech start-up. About 6 years ago, she made another courage move to bring her family, career and dream to Australia.  ===Join Us=== We would like to invite you to join the growth journey with a lot of fun, laughter, and deep conversations. If you would like to be our next guest or share your stories, visit tingtingandkakas.com! ===This Season of TingTing and KaKa’s == While we adjust to a new norm of working under an unprecedented COVID lockdown, KaKa quitted her job and reconnected with her purpose after a 2-month career break while Tingting just began hers. This season we answer the question “What is work?” through brutally honest and fun conversations with our friends, colleagues and loved ones. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

Money money money - Isn't money the ultimate reason for working?  💰How much is enough?🤯Wait, you can make money outside of your full-time job?🥱Come on, it is taking too long. How to manage money within the limited time we have? In this episode, we unfold the stories we held about money - from childhood to the first job, to balancing money and life, to making decisions about our futures. ===Introducing our guests=== Guest 1: Michael Ko Introducing Tingting's friend and husband - Michael Ko, making his first presence in the podcast! Michael is a personal finance and investment educator on YouTube. In his spare time, he teaches people how to gain financial independence via his YouTube Channel 'Michael Ko' and blog WalletLab.com.au. Guest 2: Summer Chen Introducing KaKa's friend and business partner - Summer Chen! Summer is the finance brain behind the jewelry brand Minco.Life which Summer and KaKa co-created! A master of multi-tasking - While Summer works full-time in the finance and strategy space, she is also an influencer on Red (a Chinese social media platform) providing personal development advice! ===Join Us=== We would like to invite you to join the growth journey with a lot of fun, laughter, and deep conversations. If you would like to be our next guest or share your stories, visit tingtingandkakas.com! ===This Season of TingTing and KaKa’s == While we were adjusting to a new norm of working under an unprecedented COVID lockdown, KaKa quitted her job and reconnected with her purpose after a 2-month career break while Tingting just began hers. This season we answer the question “What is work?” through brutally honest and fun conversations with our friends, colleagues, and loved ones. ==Other Nuggets== 【Podcast】得意忘形： #45我们与钱的关系： https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/45-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E4%B8%8E%E9%92%B1%E7%9A%84%E8%B7%9D%E7%A6%BB/id1200767928?i=1000409615186 （KaKa's favourite host is the guest ） 【Book】The Psychology of Money: Timeless Lessons on Wealth, Greed, and Happiness, Morgan Housel  【Book】Rich Dad Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not! Robert T. Kiyosaki (TingTing's favourite Money Book) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

This episode touches a topic that is so intimate, yet easily forgotten. What are our dreams?Is work about chasing the dream?How to make work fulfilling? === Introducing our guest === Gary Teh Our guest and peer mentor is Gary Teh. We thought of Gary because he seems to have figured everything out -- working for his dream job (one of the top global technology companies), living a fulfilled life with many hobbies such as cycling, and never lacking the drive to go for the next challenge. No, Gary is not going to give us the answers about our dreams or the secrets to fulfilling work. We hope to find our own paths at the completion of the season after talking to many of our best friends and trusted advisors. ===Join Us=== We would like to invite you to join the growth journey with a lot of fun, laughter, and deep conversations. If you would like to be our next guest or share your stories, visit tingtingandkakas.com! ===This Season of TingTing and KaKa’s == While we were adjusting to a new norm of working under an unprecedented COVID lockdown, KaKa quitted her job and reconnected with her purpose after a 2-month career break while Tingting just began hers. This season we answer the question “What is work?” through brutally honest and fun conversations with our friends, colleagues and loved ones. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

Eason和婷婷无滤镜大聊春节-实在太real了 This Tidbits, we called our dear friend and guest from Ep4 - Eason and discussed what Lunar New Year actually mean to him. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

The second story is my Malaysian friend in Australia explain the importance of Lunar new year with her 18 months old daughter and why this is so special to her 第二个故事，是我马来西亚的朋友加邻居向她18个月大的小婴儿解释中国新年的意义 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

这个花絮是我姐去年因为工作在新加坡机场独自过元宵的故事 This Tidbits shared a story of my sister celebrating last year's lunar new year alone in the Singapore Airport --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

婷婷和卡卡首次直播拜年啦(YouTube 链接👇🏼）-- 这集送来直播精华！今年的你是原地过年还是和家人过年？通过播客我们分享了春节对在海外的我们的意义并且连线我们最思念的人。 We had our first YouTube Live to wish everyone a happy Lunar New Year (live link below👇🏼). In this episode, we extracted the best of the live show - sharing our feeling about celebrating Lunar New Year in a foreign country and called the people whom we call home.  ▶️ 直播链接 Watch our YouTube Live - https://youtu.be/w2qCF1qgSBY 时间轴Timeline 00:00 春晚式拜年Intro  00:53 婷婷 - 无处安放的春节 How did Tingting celebrate a Lunar New Year affected by COVID 04:33 卡卡 - 出国前后的春节 vs 圣诞节 Lunar New Year vs Christmas 07:23 婷婷 - 童年的快乐春节 Tingting's happy New Years in China 09:40 卡卡 - 成年的快乐春节 Kaka's happy New Years in Australia 14:23 第n年海外过年感想 Meaning of Lunar New Year to us 18:00 连线最思念的人 Calling the people whom we call home 20:14 Eason - 21年及时行乐吧 1st Phone call 25:10 一号女嘉宾 - 21年越自律越自由 2nd Phone call 28:37 卡妈 - 心跳催婚之希望疫情结束全家团聚 3rd Phone call Music Credit: 新年最適合的 純音樂 歌曲 https://youtu.be/K1L1C4I0MX0 《中央广播电视总台2021年春节联欢晚会》https://youtu.be/MZ8MpS6tLcY --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

2020 就要结束了，趁此机会我们想要回顾并且感谢所有亲友团和听众朋友对婷婷和卡卡的支持与信任。 Towards the end of 2020, TingTing and KaKa would like to reflect on our journey both as podcasters and as individuals; most importantly we want to thank our family, friends, and our listeners for your trust and support. 我们自行评选出的经典片段有 Unofficially announcing the highlights of TingTing and KaKa’s in 2020: 1）”节操碎了一地“ - 最无节操的讨论 The part where we had no shame EP 3. 出国之后，你真的变了（上）How studying abroad changed our lives forever (Part 1/2) [～2:20] 2）”泪洒大海，春暖花开“ - 最感人片段 The part that touched our hearts EP 3. 出国之后，你真的变了 （下）How studying abroad changed our lives forever? [~27:00] Ep 4. TIDBIT花絮：爱情的模样/Different Shades of Love EP 2. 我们之间...是“纯”友谊还是“蠢”友谊 (下）Can men and women be just friends? (Part 2/2) [~ 6:49] 3）”你还不跳台？“ - 最尬聊片段 The awkwardness EP2. 我们之间是“纯”友谊还是“蠢”友谊（上）Can men and women be just friends（Part1/2）[~ 7:30 ] EP 5. 在澳创业的我们（下）Asian bosses in the house (Part 2/2) [~29:04] 4）”说好要剪掉的” - 大说实话片段 The part that was never meant to be EP 2. 我们之间是“纯”友谊还是“蠢”友谊？（上）Can men and women be just friends? (Part 1/2) [~9:40] -------------------------------------- 其他提及Other mentioning： Kpop Deabak w/Eric Nam https://open.spotify.com/show/5okWIPi7GOb4iaZQlVthi5?si=S3Jj3Tl2R2qEnmCvs1pyoA Zombie - by Day 6 https://youtu.be/WehhSc1knYY  -------------------------------------- 时间轴/Timestamp: 0:00 Intro 0:35 3个词形容2020 （婷婷）TingTing uses 3 word to describe her 2020 3:03​ 3个词形容2020 （卡卡）​KaKa uses 3 word to describe her 2020 10:00 2020精彩片段 2020 Podcast Highlights 11:10 最无节操片段 The part where we had no shame 13:10 最感人片段 The part that touches..everything 20:46 最尬聊片段 The awkwardness 23:45 大说实话片段 The part that was never meant to be 26:15 对21年期许（卡卡）KaKa’s expectation for 2021 28:24 对21年期许（婷婷）TingTing’s expectation for 2021 30:25 感恩 Thank you all the guests, friends and listeners 31:34 Closing songs​ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

Yo, Asian bosses in the house! In this episode, TingTing and KaKa continue the chat with 3 of our friends and successful Asian entrepreneurs about the fun, scary, and inspiring stories behind their successes. Nathan - Co-Founder and CEO of Fancy Media and ACE Brand Communication, which owns one of the most influential WeChat accounts “Australia Chinese News" (红领巾) that hundreds and thousands of Chinese viewers rely on for Australian news.Angela - Co-Founder and Director of the Academy Australia, which provides unique opportunities for young Australian talents to access the Asian entertainment markets, and to experience life as an idol trainee.Jaye - Founder of Crossover Dance Studio and a major influencer who shaped the k-pop dance community in Sydney. If you enjoy this topic or would like to get in touch with us, please send your message to TingTingandKaKas@gmail.com or use the webform on our website: https://www.tingtingandkakas.com/contact. ==== Find our Asian bosses==== Angela Lee | The Academy Australia | https://www.the-academy.training/Nathan Wu | Fancy Media Consulting and ACE Brand Communication| http://www.fancymedia.com.au/Jaye Sutanto | CrossOver Dance Studio | https://www.crossoverdance.com/ 注意注意，boss来了！朝九晚五的生活是否磨灭些你的热血？ 你是否也有想过创业，或者对亚裔如何在澳创业充满了好奇？这期婷婷和卡卡请来了3位成功的创业友人，谈谈他们创业的心路历程。 如果你们喜欢这个话题或者想给我们宝贵意见，欢迎留言：  TingTingandKaKas@gmail.com 或者 https://www.tingtingandkakas.com/contact  如果对我们三位嘉宾和他们的公司有兴趣，也欢迎关注他们的公司网站。  希望大家倾听愉快！ Nathan Wu - 高富帅 - 繁星集团& ACE Brand Communicationhttp://www.fancymedia.com.au/Angela Lee - 澳洲偶像企划领军人 - The Academy Australiahttps://www.the-academy.training/Jaye Sutanto - 童颜+悉尼韩舞文化始祖 - Crossover Dance Studio (XO)https://www.crossoverdance.com/ Timestamp/ 时间轴： 00:00 Ep Highlight 00:17 Intro music 0:59 Activity 3: Rapid Fire 6:40 Thoughts of Giving up 11:45 Family support 16:30 Ultimate goal for businesses 21:17 Ads 23:70 Advice to young entrepreneurs  29:09 What is the meaning of life 32:00 How to find our guest and their business 33: 00 Ending rap & music --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

Yo, Asian bosses in the house! In this episode, TingTing and KaKa chat to 3 of our friends and successful Asian entrepreneurs about the fun, scary, and inspiring stories behind their successes. Nathan - Co-Founder, and CEO of Fancy Media Consulting and ACE Brand Communication, which owns one of the most influential WeChat accounts “Australia Chinese News" (红领巾) that hundreds and thousands of Chinese viewers rely on for Australian news.Angela - Co-Founder and Director of the Academy Australia, which provides unique opportunities for young Australian talents to access the Asian entertainment markets, and to experience life as an idol trainee.Jaye - Founder of Crossover Dance Studio and a major influencer who shaped the k-pop dance community in Sydney. if you enjoy this topic or would like to get in touch, you are welcomed to contact us through: TingTingandKaKas@gmail.com or https://www.tingtingandkakas.com/contact Look forward to hearing from you ==== Find our Asian bosses ==== Angela Lee | The Academy Australia | https://www.the-academy.training/Nathan Wu | Fancy Media Consulting and ACE Brand Communication| http://www.fancymedia.com.au/Jaye Sutanto | CrossOver Dance Studio | https://www.crossoverdance.com/ 注意注意，boss来了！朝九晚五的生活是否磨灭些你的热血？ 你是否也有想过创业，或者对亚裔如何在澳创业充满了好奇？这期婷婷和卡卡请来了3位成功的创业友人，谈谈他们创业的心路历程。 如果你们喜欢这个话题或者想给我们宝贵意见，欢迎留言： TingTingandKaKas@gmail.com 或者 https://www.tingtingandkakas.com/contact 如果对我们三位嘉宾和他们的公司有兴趣，也欢迎关注他们的公司网站。  希望大家倾听愉快！ Nathan Wu - 高富帅 - 繁星集团 & ACE Brand Communicationhttp://www.fancymedia.com.au/Angela Lee - 澳洲偶像企划领军人 - The Academy Australiahttps://www.the-academy.training/Jaye Sutanto - 童颜+悉尼韩舞文化始祖 - Crossover Dance Studio (XO)https://www.crossoverdance.com/ Timestamp/时间轴 00:00 Ep Highlight 00:33 Intro music 1:00 Intro of 3 Guests 4:10 Activity 1: 3 words 10:30 Bring personal Value and belief into business 14:00 Activity 2: business pitch context 19:30 Ads & Break 20:00 Everyone’s stories behind Pitches 29:13 Founding stories 47:00 Ending Music & Contact details --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

为了筹备这期的话题，TingTing and Kaka去问了很多亲朋好友对于婚姻以及爱情的看法， 在这个过程中，我们收获了很多温暖，我想这次的花絮，就想分享四个有爱的小片段。 也想要通过这个花絮特别感谢参与的亲朋好友！谢谢你们一直的支持！也希望你们都可以继续幸福！ This TIDBITS are a collections of 4 recording about Love.  Thank you everyone who has been part of this Ep (either interviewing with us or conduct survey). Thank you again for your support.  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

“你怎么还不结婚?””那你为什么要结婚？“是许多90后青年避之不及的问题！跟着同样遭受逼婚轰炸的卡卡和马上就要步入婚姻殿堂的婷婷，一起来聊聊我们这一代独特婚姻观吧。 What does marriage mean to us? How does this view vary between generations? What about between different cultures? This Episode,  TingTing and Kaka decide to face their own fears and expectations about marriage and explore these daunting questions with their close friends and family. Links: 【Podcast】 The history of Marriage, History: Days of Infamy, Daily Life, Stephanie Coontz How to Have a Life you Love, With or Without Kids， Think Act Be Podcast, Dr. Rachel Chrastil 【Video】 如何面对父母逼婚， 孟非 时间轴 Time Stamp  0:37  — 为什么要做这一集  2:03  — 解决卡卡被逼婚的烦恼  2:30  — 父母辈谈论逼婚的原因（采访录音+讨论）  8:40  — 90 后对婚姻的观念（采访录音+讨论）  11:00 — 逼婚是为了爱？ （采访录音+讨论）  13:15 — 西方父母逼婚吗？  15:05 — 女神经版本广告  15:36 – 两代&中西婚姻观区别（采访录音+讨论）  17:46 — 解决婷婷对于结婚意义的思考  20:45 — Quote 孟非的录音  23:14 — 总结 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

出国来到澳洲后，婷婷和卡卡的人生都发生翻天覆地的改变，这一集婷婷和卡卡会继续回顾并分享她们的出国10+年间，影响她们最深的一个故事，希望听众们可以跟着她们的声音一起回忆自己努力蜕变的那些年。 It has been more than 10 years since Tingting and Kaka came to Australia to study. This changed everything. Coming from a Chinese background, Tingting and Kaka shared one of the most pivotal moments in life that shaped them as who they are today. 时间轴 Timestamp   00:00 主题曲  00:29 婷婷的故事 -- 当上班族去法国迪士尼试镜...  14:00 女神经版 anchor 广告  14:37 卡卡的故事 -- 大学第一天偶遇秃头男神，命运从此改变  26:48 podcast 播客对我们的改变 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

第一次和国外人交往带来的改变不只是英文变好。听一段叛逆的恋爱所带来的成长。The challenges of dating a non-Chinese are not only the language. Tingting talked about how her rebellious love story taught her more about herself and her relationship with others.  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

出国来到澳洲后，婷婷和卡卡的人生都发生翻天覆地的改变，这一集婷婷和卡卡会回顾并分享她们的出国10+年间，笑泪交加的成长故事。希望听众们可以跟着她们的声音一起回忆自己努力蜕变的那些年。 It has been more than 10 years since Tingting and Kaka came to Australia to study. This changed everything. Coming from a Chinese background, Tingting and Kaka share the pivotal moments in life that shaped them as who they are today. 时间轴 Timestamp   00:00 为什么我们要做这一集  01:35 podcast改变我的人生：处女膜，性欲和年龄  07:00 婷婷 - 出国上高中，梦想vs现实  18:10 卡卡 - 出国留学，梦想vs现实 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

Welcome to TingTing and Kaka’s first English episode - In this episode, TingTing and Kaka are joined by their friends Tom and Issa to continue to explore if platonic relationships exist. The group is diving deep into topics like what is that switch from friendship to romance and is it harder for men to have a platonic friendship than women. 这是婷婷和卡卡第一个全英文博客集，这集我们请来我们的好友Tom and Issa,带入西方视角深入探讨我们上期的话题 - 直男直女间是否存在纯友谊捏？对上集意犹未尽的你们，快来加入我们的闲聊吧. Timestamp  00:00 episode trailer in 90 seconds  01:34 sex vs gender vs friendship, can they co-exist?  07:35 do gay/lesbian tend to befriend people of the opposite gender?  09:00 the case for straight people  14:54 the "switch" from friendship to romance  18:21 GAME time -- confession   24:22 who wins --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support

你和异性闺蜜之间的友情到底是【单纯如水】的友谊还是【蠢蠢欲动】的友谊？难道长相决定了你能不能和一个人做单纯的朋友？ep 2 的婷婷和卡卡请来她们的异性闺蜜来探讨 -- （直）男（直）女之间是否有纯友谊。 In Episode 2 of Tingting and Kaka's we invited our best male friend along to discuss -- can (straight) men and women be just friends? How much does look matter? --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tingtingandkakas/support