Episode 8: Landlords on the cladding crisis and how to manage remote lettings

Listen Up Landlords podcast

25-08-2021 • 30分

Around 750,000 landlords are believed to have been affected by the cladding crisis, with many now facing crippling costs for remedial works and additional safety measures such as waking watches.

Presenters NRLA CEO Ben Beadle (@BeadleBen) and Richard Blanco (@richardblanco_) talk to Steve Bagnall, a landlord whose buy-to-let is in one of the blocks affected, and faces a bill of up to £50,000 to make it safe.

Andrew Bulmer of the Institute of Residential Property Management (IRPM) also joins the conversation to examine the scope of the problem and the share the latest on Government support to tackle the issue.

Elsewhere in the show Dan Cumming of the NRLA advice team talks about the hot topics on the phonelines throughout the month, including issues with student lets if tenants have to isolate.

Last, but by no means least, we talk to property investor Harvey, who has shunned convention to build up a property portfolio almost 300 miles from home.

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More information

You can read an article on the cladding crisis in the summer edition of Property magazine here. (Page 26)

The NLRA training academy also runs an eClassroom course on The Key to Property Investment. You can find out more here.

To read a full transcript of the show click here.

Guest Biographies

Steve Bagnall

Steve is a landlord who bought a buy-to-let flat as an investment on retirement. His property was found to be clad in flammable material in the wake of the Grenfell Tower fire.

Andrew Bulmer

A Fellow of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors, Andrew started his residential PRS and leasehold management practice in 1995, selling in 2011.

Andrew was UK Residential Director at RICS from 2013-2016, before taking the CEO role at the Institute of Residential Property Management (IRPM), the UK's leading provider of professional qualifications and learning in the leasehold management and Build-to-Rent sectors.

Andrew is passionate about raising standards across the residential property management sectors and encouraging property professionals to be a progressive and ethical force for good.


Harvey is a property investor based in Essex and founder of Growth Properties. Starting out investing locally, he branched out to build a portfolio in the north east that he manages remotely.